Project /Fedora\ - Piantelli's KICK A** lab - double take
Happy Christmas Day, 23:59 Fiji
The MFMP announce Project /Fedora\
Following over two years of reach out and a concerted effort this year, the MFMP is to work with the consummate scientist Francesco Piantelli, the Father of the Ni+H New Fire to realise our primary goal.
In the following photo, you can see the venerable, debonair Francesco Piantelli in the soon to be famous tan coloured Fedora man hat (Man-hat-tan) from which we got the name for this project thread. With him you can see Mathieu Valat - the MFMPs hard working chief scientist who told NicHEnergy in 2012 at a LENR seminar in Italy "One day I'll be replicating you". For every core member of the MFMP, this was the first time we physically saw what may prove to be one of the most important humans to ever walk the earth.
The two bars represent the bars of nickel with glowing surface plasma which represent the minimum 2 X replications we hope to stream live of his technology before we facilitate live external independent replications with trusted, respected, international labs.
EGO OUT
Mathieu Valat and Bob Greenyer had an amazing and enlightening time with Francesco Piantelli over the past week, a meeting we have tried to secure for over two years and been in active discussions about for many months.
He shared unbelievable amounts of detail, insight into many of the key events in the story of his Ni+H discovery with incredible granularity and of the process itself. It was 3 hours in each of two days where he just talked and talked with a clarity that all who might reach 81 would aspire to retain (indeed, far clearer than many would hope for in their prime). This man knows his stuff.
Because we are not-for-profit and non-governmental, at his request, we have agreed to run live experiments from his lab as soon as possible as his health is failing fast we feel it is imperative that we do this now. He asked us to come and work with him - and we believe this is the fastest way to demonstrate the reality of LENR. We have begged our wives, working things with our businesses and employers to make ourselves available.
He says he will be able to deliver repeatable experiments that will produce clear excess heat which would meet the MFMPs primary goal - and we can document the process.
We are aiming to start 2nd week in January.
We do not have time to put a Kickstarter together and get it approved before the work must begin in order to raise funds, but there is an amazing reward that we have negotiated from Piantelli to help us.
This will be revealed very soon - and it is not what you expect!
Serendipity in Siena - Tipple to toast
Every summer, as the grapes ripen nearby on the baking hillsides of Tuscany, Italy, an age old tradition of bare-back horse riding takes place between the community wards in the central square "Piazza del Campo" of the ancient city of Sienna. Called "Palio di Siena", it is a spectacle befitting of any Roman amphitheatre. The race is a brutal battle of horsemanship famous the world over and is the single most important event in the cities calendar.
Just a stones throw away in the top floor lab of the Universita di Siena a biology experiment was going on in a physics laboratory.
When a brain cell is starved of oxygen, its response is to keep itself alive, in doing so however, it creates a barrier after a few minutes that is ironically impervious to Oxygen - a situation that seals its doom.
The experiment was designed to investigate this phenomenon with a view to finding ways to prevent it and so try to stop brain damage in situations of oxygen deprivation. It was being conducted by one Prof. Francesco Piantelli and involved a Nickel rod, some electrodes, brain cells, hydrogen and stimulation. In order to freeze the state of a dying braincell instantly on its substrate of Nickel, the sample was dunked in liquid Helium which can be as cool as -269 °C (about 4 K or −452.2 °F), the coldest fluid known to man.
Only, on August the 16th, 1989, it did not freeze, it just kept on boiling away the liquid helium, this tiny fragment of nickel was fighting around 250W of cryogenic cooling to keep warm, it was a phenomenon that had no precedent - at the same time, this exact Palio di Siena could be viewed from the lab window...
Prof. Piantelli did not care, he did not know it then, but he was witnessing the birth of his Ni+H energy invention. His brilliant scientific mind strived to explain his experience and subsequently he started to wonder if it could be in the same family of nuclear derived energy as had been recently reported from Utah by Stanley Pons and Martin Fleischmann.
Chianti
Martin Fleischmann in time became Piantelli's friend and familiarised himself with another of Francesco's skills. It turns out that Francesco Piantelli is not only a consummate scientist, but also a fine winemaker. Martin would seek to secure some of Piantelli's hand made bottles of Chianti whenever he could.
When, in 1992, Francesco Piantelli and Sergio Focardi finally realised they had cracked repeatability and felt they understood Piantelli's Ni+H discovery, they shared a full five litres of his brew in celebration!
We have great pleasure in announcing that Francesco has agreed to make available a limited number of his 1989 vintage home brewed Chianti bottles of wine, that he will sign. He agreed to do this in order to help raise money for a strong *independent* team to urgently go and work with him. We ask that people submit their closed pledges for these by the 30th December 2014 to
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Stating pledge value and contact details.
Successful participants will be informed 31st December 2014 and will need to make good on their pledge by the 3rd January 2015.
The top 5 pledges will be invited to come to the MFMP accommodation in Italy, if they can and share the wine. If Piantelli is well enough, he suggested that he would like to decant it, as a purist, he says that wine of this maturity is best consumed shortly after it is moved. Depending on shipping location, there will be an appropriate amount for packaging and shipping requested.
For other successful recipients, we recommend that you enjoy the tipple when whichever version of Piantelli's original invention is eventually proclaimed as viable, or just keep it as an investment - whatever happens, this will be a unique symbol of science from a great scientist.
Piantelli's KICK A** lab - first look
Firstly, can we say thank you to the pledges we have already received for Piantelli's home made bottles of 1989 vintage Chianti, we have received a good number already - one of $2500!! So it may just be possible for us to do this job properly. Thank you for your generosity, please consider pledging if you can.
The Lab
When we went to Italy to meet Francesco Piantelli, we had to keep our expectations low, we really had no idea if we were ever going to even see his famously top secret lab. Even as we were speaking to him for the first time, this was still seriously in doubt, but during the conversation he started to say that he would show us things in the lab tomorrow, which was really encouraging.
We had no idea what to expect - after arriving, as the the title implies, it is a VERY nice set-up.
The photo shown is just one room - there are several others which we will reveal and discuss over the coming days. It looks surprisingly similar to the lab shown in New Energy Times, which means he has been there since early 2008. Happy digging in this link guys!
http://newenergytimes.com/v2/news/2008/NET29-8dd54geg.shtml
There were several experiments running, one that we were told had been producing increasing nominal output from decreasing input since May! We did not get a chance to test the veracity of that claim ourselves, but it sure sounded positive. If we could see incontrovertible excess in an experiment that ran that long and get that rolled out internationally - we would achieve our primary goal and the New Fire would be officially lit we thought. We shall see.
There were 3 other cells of a different type hooked up, two of which were in various stages of an experiment but not yet producing excess heat apparently. These looked like the same type of Piantelli-Focardi cells in the article cited above where there are clear pictures detailed. If it works - don't fix it! It also says this of one of his experiments:
"Piantelli didn't know how hot the experiment had gotten before he killed it because the monitor eventually blacked out. However, the metal thermocouples inside the cell melted. This told him that the temperature exceeded 1450 C."
Interesting, that number looks familiar... and, with respect to the primary goal of the MFMP
"He said he once made a promise to Gene Mallove, at the time editor and publisher of Infinite Energy, to make a successful demonstration experiment."
Let us all do everything we can to help him keep that promise.
On the table to the right of the picture is the same blue cryogenic vessel that started Piantelli's journey. There are also clearer close-ups of this in the above sited article.
Were the lab appears different from the photos is that the equipment has been up-rated. In the adjacent rooms there is some really neat kit and we shall share those in the coming days.
Piantelli's KICK A** lab - double take
There is a lot of new stuff going on in Piantellis lab, things that we were not allowed to know about save for a nudge and a wink that they are much further on than the work we were being instructed to replicate.
NicHEnergy gave us permission to take these two photos showing some of the high specification equipment they have in the lab for looking at the structure and elemental aspects of their pre and post experiment samples.
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Apparently MFMP results with excess heat from Celani wire experiments performed so far were more in line with reality than initial claims, but I agree that having wrapping-up documents summarizing findings and conclusions for each experiment and more communication on these matters would be helpful.
The video: my.mail.ru/.../2.html
Unfortunately I don't remember the exact time where this information was said, but I think it was not much after the beginning of this video.
As far as I'm aware of, MFMP collaborator Bob Higgins will make a Pakhomov replication soon. The one made at HUG before the Hunt's went on vacation was a sort of backup plan since several things went wrong during that week and they wanted to use the remaining free time for something that might have been interesting to see; that's also why it ended up being rushed.
Celani wire super interesting resistance data but no follow up
Various nickel powder experiments the results of which I have no knowledge of
Parkhomov replication learned how to do experiment and then stopped before doing the experiment. Yeah, Ryan went on vacation but are there no volunteers to hold the fort?
Of these I would most like to see the Parkhomov finished. With several slooow ramp ups and downs to increasingly higher temps. Say up and down to 700C with no breakage up to 800C, 900C, 1000C, 1050C, 1100C, 1150C, 1200C, 1250C, 1300C internal temperatures.
To be clear I mean
25 to 700 to 800
800 to 700
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900 to 700
700 to 1000
1000 to 700
700 to 1050
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I understand that now MFMP intend to perform a replication of Piantelli's cell based on acquired knowledge and not more a real time tests in Siena together with the inventor.
This solution has lower probability of success and, in case of test failed, a lot of causes can be invoked to justify the eventual bad result.
The better and appropriate solution is still (like 15 years ago) the direct test performing a good calorimetry and tests directly in Piantelli Lab, on a recognized (by Piantelli) working cell (any cell he choices, an old cell or an improved one or a new prototipe, anything he likes...)
I read that they asked you a signature of an NDA but they required your help in order to demonstrate the claim, so why not allow this fast and simple test solution that keeps well saved also the inventor IP?
How just a simply calorimetry, performed in Piantelli's Lab and under his full control, can jeopardize the IP, I can't understand.
We told them we could not sign an NDA and were only interested in replicating published and patent protected research when we visited them in December on an exploratory trip, Just Mathieu and Myself. No funds were sought at this point specifically for collaboration with them. During that trip we had much greater access to Piantelli than we had hoped for and the NicHEnergy Lab, this was very encouraging.
When we arrived in Italy, we were given Day one access to NicHEnergy in Milan and after we had got down and settled in Siena, we had nearly a full week of intense one on one. Still no indication of an NDA.
Only as we were leaving at the end of that first week, after 5 full days of tuition, were we asked and we refused, we stood our ground for over two hours and respectfully agreed we would revert with a proposal. We did that. They really liked it but felt it was unnecessarily long. We then supplied a very short proposal which again has been accepted.
We are currently waiting for final approval on their side. In the mean time, we are keeping our other funded commitments and Mathieu has begun sourcing components for the replication.
I feel defrauded in having contributed to delivering you all to Italy, only to find, after the fact, that a non disclosure was required. Who, may I ask is defrauding me? Do I have the chronology correct? Who, I ask again, is defrauding me?
As I have already said, I have developed enough respect for the sincerity and honesty of the MFMP group to donate, what for me was a significant amount. No mention of the need for a NDA was made at the time of YOUR request for funds to go forward. Did THEY ambush YOU? ( and those who funded you), or were you presumptive in your fund raising? Yes, I am pissed off! Either YOU are suckers to their manipulations, or I am to yours! Please let me know which of those exclusive choices holds.
I just arrived in Minesota with the Key equipment for up and coming tests. Ryan told me of the kindness of your comment and we will try our best to honour the sentiment.
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