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ULTR - Affordable ultrasonic driven transmutation?

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0 #50 Thomas Kaminski 2019-11-20 13:05
Please allow me to access the document to place some of my observations here.
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+1 #49 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-30 20:38
Very interesting Camilo
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0 #48 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-27 17:04
I just had the chance of looking at a previous work of Lu et al from 2017, in which they already had reported transmutation of K to Ca, this time under photo catalytic conditions that release H-. I had wanted to check the methodology for seeing if ultrasound had been used to stir the reagents and, lo and behold, it had been used fro 30 mins prior to exposure to the photocatalytic environment. So again, they *might* have been getting the results from the ultrasound stirring instead of the hydrides elapsed by photocatalysis. In this case the stirring during the photicatalysis was magnetic, tho. However, every time you use ultrasound in a experiment and transmutations are observed, it can't be ruled out that the ultrasound had nothing to do.


jmcchina.org/.../20170501.htm
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-1 #47 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-21 10:54
Added details into the live document on Ca rich inclusion found on Indium Cavitation Test – DI water for 3 minutes only
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+1 #46 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-20 16:17
@Camilo Urbina

The cirrus was not attached to the apparatus, it was only attached to the blocked off vacuum system.
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+1 #45 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-20 13:56
The gas analysis showed nothing but how was it connected to the experiment?

Also, the burst out areas in the DI water only look more definite than in the original experiment. I have been wondering if just heating the bath with the same energy input that the ultrasound emitter has would cause any kind of damage at all.
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+1 #44 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-20 10:13
@Tom

I do think we need to find more pure Indium. will plating make it more pure or make impurities harder to detect?
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+1 #43 Tom Kaminski 2019-10-18 16:42
I found that Indium Corporation can supply an indium plating solution for use on many metals. It is typically used to coat surfaces prior to indium metal to metal welding. Should we see if a sample of indium plated on brass or copper is available?

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+1 #42 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-16 09:19
Here is a task if someone is willing.


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+1 #41 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-15 12:55
@weepy

no exposure to Ultrasonic and some attempt to abrade the surface without introducing contamination

Or just nothing...
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+1 #40 weepy 2019-10-15 12:06
What would the (null) be in this case?
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+1 #39 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-15 11:59
@Camilo Urbina

We have to be really careful calling this, yes. Also, we must not be immediately dismissive of potentially synthesized elements purely because they were there to begin with. This is why I feel isotopic or evolved gas studies will be the only way to know for sure and I am coming up with a real simple test for the latter.

The likely-hood is that these elements are mostly contaminants - however the 'blow-out' features are interesting and have to be explained.

I cannot speak as to the validity of Mondaini's claims in their entirety. Sulfur from 2 x O is something we appear to have observed in NOVA and 10 Yen + Ohmasa Gas. It is a known Ohsawa product. The one that I made reference to in my CE interview was the increase in alkalinity that he observed which he put down to the production of excess OH, his hypothesis being that H was becoming D (this would be an inverse beta process with H + H + e +v > D. It is noteworthy because of Slobodan Stankovic's observation of OH radicals that I refer to as being able to self-MASE and that could possibly account for the laser like 'cut' in the 10 Yen coin. Again I would refer to the analysis of Ohmasa Gas also.

Yes this is still all from the run with DI and EDTA - actually for 4 mins not 3 as in the original run, so not quite a true replication. Next data to be looked at will be the run with DI water only for 3 mins.

Regarding comments on the first data set.

I think that it could still all be contamination. I think that the first series of experiment with and without EDTA and DI should form a baseline alongside a null, then I would like to compare that to

+ D2O
+ K2CO3
+ Rb2CO3 (For VERY specific reasons)

in short and long runs, possibly with a LOT of indium foil.

I think that our best shot for confirmation is to look for Krypton - this should absolutely not be there unless transmutation is taking place.
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0 #38 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-15 02:08
@Robert Greenyer, what do you think after the analysis of the replication experiment? I think the results of the replication are in line with the serendipitous findings, and the mechanical damage to the indium foil and its association with the presence of altered elemental proportions is undeniable. Discarding contamination is not possible right now, without the isotopic analysis, but the localized association of the damage and the elemental diversity is compelling. I think the pure DI and DI + D2O runs will further discard contaminants and probably pave the way to confirm the effect, but I also think that a longer term exposure time could lead to a more dramatic, perhaps even measurable change of mass that could serve as a second way of confirming the transmutations.
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0 #37 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-14 19:34
Thanks for the Updates to the live document Bob!

Some really intriguing features and elemental compositions. That sort of carbon grain clearly embedded in the Indium is impressive. This is still all from the run with DI and EDTA, or there is already a pure DI run?
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0 #36 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-14 19:27
Quoting Robert Greenyer:
@Camilo Urbina

You will see me mention him in my Conscious Energies interview, Sulphur is common transmutation product, I mention it my ICCF-22 poster sessions in reference to observations on the 10 Yen coin.

youtu.be/3h3Gk4vatS8


Well, thanks for confirming you were aware of Mondaini's claims. I have started to see the CE interview at least three times but never got past the discussion of cryptocurrencie s. Is a very extended interview!!! LOL. I am intrigued by the results, do you think is plausible and that is not just an interpretation mistake? the claim of copper sulphate is kind of easy to dismiss as it could be easily to misinterpret the blue color if is just Copper Hydroxide, (not saying that this is the case, but from the video alone we only have Mondaini's word and the analyses to go, and also the analyses could be Ok and the S be coming from the S present already in the system as impurities in the water, KCO3 and copper wire, but somehow concentrated in a very small volume, so without a mass balance is impossible to tell for sure). But the missing K replaced by Na, is another tale. Yet, doing such a seemingly simple experiment with all proper things and methods in place is not trivial. Well, the same happens with the ULTR project, simple experiment, difficult to be absolutely certain without all the instruments and methods, Earth shattering implications if the results are confirmed, so no surprises there.
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0 #35 Camilo Urbina 2019-10-14 19:21
Quoting Robert Greenyer:
@Camilo Urbina

The blog is run by the guy that invited the MFMP to test Dr. Ohmasa's technology, helped with logistics and translation.

Yes, I believe it was Tritium (T), you can see from the Parkhomov tables that T is a valuable commodity, the extra neutrons ar favourable for transmutations. Dr. Ohmasa argues that the over 1 million tonnes of toxic T laced water is a valuable resource.


I had the feeling that this was Sho's blog. Good to know. It's so baffling that something as simple can have so profound effects on the dissolved elements.
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+1 #34 Robert Greenyer 2019-10-14 18:54
@Camilo Urbina

You will see me mention him in my Conscious Energies interview, Sulphur is common transmutation product, I mention it my ICCF-22 poster sessions in reference to observations on the 10 Yen coin.

youtu.be/3h3Gk4vatS8
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