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Minor Setbacks in Version 1.3 in US [UPDATE #1 - Rough Weekend]

Written by Wes Baish on .

Tick tock. Tick tock. The days wear on with no V 1.3 data to stream. We hear the clock, too! We've been tirelessly working to make up for some lost ground encountered recently. 

We fixed that insufferable leak in the vacuum line, but only too well. The line from vacuum to reactors is tight as a drum, and we realized there needed to be an atmospheric bleed in the line somewhere. This would allow us to finely tune the drawn vacuum and limit it to the prescribed 1mbar in our original protocol. Though the control knob is a bellows valve and not a needle valve we'd like to be using, it'll do the trick. 

The choke valve to throttle back our open-air bleeder, complete with two layers of filter cloth.

The vacuum line before choke alteration.

It looks a little more official now. . .

Thermocouple Trouble

We spent yesterday afternoon configuring the tests in HUGnet, resulting in the live data stream you may now all acquaint yourselves with before we set off to run calibrations (we'll let you know as soon as we start them Wink). However the US control cell gave null readings for the oxide wire current. 

This could not stand, and we departed for the lab to find the source of the issue. 

The oxide (red) wire was shorting to the cell chassis! You saw the passthrough construction pictures for V 1.3 - they're covered in fiberglass insulation, making it hard to believe that the red circuit was solely responsible for the short. And yet there was the problem with one of the interior thermocouples. 

What we see here is the lame interior thermocouple responsible for the delay in fully commissioning the US cells. Our clue came from the discoloration in the sheath metal, indicating there was a heat source present - most likely in the form of electrical resistance.

While doing some tooling on the macor supports, this little guy was nicked by the diamond blade. This little slip severed the delicate thermal connection inside and his days were over. He was a permanent installation in the flange and could not be replaced, so we let it be and continued with the assembly fully knowing the control cell would only have 1 interior thermocouple. 

I suppose we didn't give him a proper burial because his lifeless body caused the short in the cell due to its sheath connectivity with the flange and 1/4" support well. The passthrough junction had a washer that was also touching the support well. If we had not left the dead thermocouple plugged into the HUGnet board, we would not have completed the short to its chassis ground, and there we have our short. The bum interior TC was removed permanently in response to its fussiness. 

On the same subject of thermocouples, the exterior thermocouples have finally been installed as well. We needed a way to  make good thermal conductivity with the glass, a hangup we've experienced before. We liked the idea presented in the glass-hybrid cell concept figures and made our own fastening rings out of copper (thanks, Wayne!). The following is a timelapse of their fabrication. 

It was also necessary to add a few new input tables for the vacuum sensor in both US and EU tests to make the server more stable when pulling data for the streams (I really, really can't tell you why - I really, really don't know). However I'm told this will lessen the chance of any communication breakdown between the server and endpoints. 

And there you have it: the progress of the week. Things are taking shape for the calibration runs. No important data yet, but we do have live streams.

Sorry to throw a megablog post at you, but we didn't want you to get bored with us! 

Additionally, look forward to a little more site organization in the near future. We think we're on to something with metadata and tag words. What do you think? Any suggestions?

 Update #1 - Rough Weekend

Though we seem to have caught an uplifting draft of good publicity this weekend, not all was well in the US lab.

Shortly before leaving on Friday, we turned on power to the Oxide wire in the control cell (US-1.3B) to verify we had eliminated any further possibility of a short in the Red channel. Apparently within <1 min the wire gathered enough resistant heat to break at a weak point; none were there to witness the event, and we were largely unaware of the damage until our return today. We aren't totally used to working with the cells in vacuum, and the inexperience showed. 

This isn't the worst thing to happen, and something good can always come out of something bad. A comment on the blog clued us in to the varying resistance between the two cells' oxide wires, and we believed it may have been the varying lengths of wire between the cells. We weren't sure of the exact lengths because we didn't write it down Embarassed.

Our EXACT effort is to eliminate doubts and publicity that LENR technicians do poor science, and yet we found ourselves supporting POOR SCIENCE! We PROMISE not to succumb to such irresponsible work, and thus have re-wrapped both the cells with new NiCr and oxide wires, taking exact measurement of their initial resistance and lengths. We are quick to catch mistakes like this and hold ourselves responsible in an effort to make them less often. Luckily for us, this mistake did not account for the differing resistance. 

The blown-out wire was the cause for our distress, embrittled to pieces as we disassembled cell 1.3B. 

This was discovered at ~0900 GMT-5, and disassembling/reassembling one of these reactors is no short order as we were unable to get the data running again until 1400. We wanted you to appreciate the process and attached a short video. 

The sublimated oxide wire ruined the quartz glass and micah supports, and thus needed to be replaced. The new supports must be entirely retooled from raw strips and baked out in a dentist's kiln. Following their acetone wipe-down, we need to dry off the entire core before inserting it back to the vacuum manifold and then delicately wrapping the new NiCr and Ox wires. We aren't slacking! However we've got our work cut out for us. 

 

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0 #12 Malachi Heder 2013-04-08 16:45
@ Dieter

It was an instrumentation error. It has been fixed! Thanks for your attention to detail!
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0 #11 Dieter Seeliger 2013-04-05 21:06
@Malachi,
sorry, the day was full of work, so I noticed your answer a bit late..
I do not hink, that this behaviour is a problem with the wire.
The value jumps are +- 1 Ohm, no value between..
As no real measurement would show such an value change by 1 full digit I suppose a rounding error in the calculation sheet or the visualisation script.

my 2 cent

PS It`s very nice to seen discussions about the data back in the blog :-)
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0 #10 Malachi Heder 2013-04-05 14:50
@ Dieter

I see that the oxide wire in the Cell B is actually decreasing instead of increasing, like you would expect from a passively heated wire. The oxide wire in cell A is holding surprisingly constant, but it is increasing like we would expect. The resistance is calculated the same way for both cells, so I don't believe it's a software/comput er issue. However, I recall in cells 1.0 and 1.1 that we saw opposite trends like this between two different celani wires (2 layer and a 14 layer). Again, these were different wires and now we have the exact wire from the same roll. Could there be this much discrepancy from two identical wires? We will be exploring this for a while today.

@ Ecco

That was a curious event, I saw it yesterday as well. Could it be an environmental effect? I will take a look at that time period this morning.
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0 #9 Dieter Seeliger 2013-04-05 06:33
@Malachi,
please take a look at the 1.3B cell, the R2_OX value is jumping up and down several times by exact 1 Ohm during the last 8 hours.
The R1_OX from the 1.3A cell is constant @13 Ohms !
Is there a calculation error in the live data display ?
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0 #8 Malachi Heder 2013-04-04 14:31
@ All

Everything is wired up and we will start a calibration cycle today. When we have three of them done, we will perform some error analysis on the cells to see their accuracy and precision. After that we should be able to swap out the oxide wire for a Celani Wire!
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0 #7 Malachi Heder 2013-04-03 18:10
@ Alan G

You are right, there were some swapped TC's yesterday. I fixed those and now I am stepping up the power in a vacuum to see how hot we can get the wires in the 0-20 Watt range.
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0 #6 AlanG 2013-04-02 19:32
Both 1.3 cells now have 2 watts heater input. The temps shown suggest that some of the TC connections for 1.3B might be mislabeled. T2_Mica is substantially lower than T2_Ext2 and T2_Ext3, which doesn't seem right.
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0 #5 Wes Baish 2013-04-01 14:25
@all
We have stopped V 1.3 tests due to a blowout in the oxide wire in cell B (control). We will have it re-wrapped with new wire and running by noon GMT-5.
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0 #4 Dieter Seeliger 2013-03-31 09:09
Looks like the voltage measurements are somehow linked to the change in ambient temp.
Take a look at V2_Ox and Ambient at US Cell 1.3B.
Also the other voltages are following the ambient temp, but not so clear.
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0 #3 Robert Greenyer 2013-03-30 23:01
@Edwin Pell

Take a look at the last image in this blog

quantumheat.org/.../...
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0 #2 AlanG 2013-03-30 17:00
The US1.3 data feeds are nicely stable now. Thanks for the hard work and persistence!

One detail caught my eye - the NiCr resistance is different between the cells by ~8%. Are the construction and wire batch identical for both cells?
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0 #1 Edwin Pell 2013-03-30 02:50
If you would a wider angle view of the experiment would be nice. Thanks.

Ed
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