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Following our discovery of the vacuum drift and temperature rise (Mini Update US) we decided to replicate these findings.  Before we swept the vacuum range we would be operating in (1 to 14 mbar) there were a few things we wanted to take care of.

First, we noticed a pressure leak in the pressure tee of Cell B. Second, we wanted to test out the addition of thermal grease between the glass and copper bands of the exterior thermocouples on Cell B (also applied to Cell A if positive results on Cell B). Third,
we wanted to employ Robert Ellefson's suggestion of using weather stripping to seal the bottom edges of the temperature control box.

Once these were taken care of, we turned on the cells and waited for an equilibrium.  We then stepped down in pressure from 14 mbar to 0.38 mbar.  Here are our results:

Cell A
Cell B
Vac (mbar) T_Ext1 Rise Vac (mbar) T_Ext1 Rise
14.1409 53.53 14.1416 55.25
12.3715 53.38 12.3713 55.12
8.2167 53.80 8.2170 55.51
3.0103 53.61 3.0103 55.27
1.4507 53.19 1.4506 55.09
0.3815 52.47 0.3815 52.51

We can see that our temperature rise over ambient varied little within our range from 1 to 14 mbar.  Also, there is no clear relationship between the temperature and a decreasing pressure in our range.  However, if we go much below 1 mbar, we could have a problem. 

For our operating range the standard deviation for Cell A is 0.23 C and for Cell B it is 0.17 C.  The tightness of B compared to A is most likely the thermal grease present under Cell B's copper bands.  So, we will apply thermal grease to Cell A as well.

Within our range of operating pressure(1 to 10 mbar), we can safely say that we won't see a pressure dependent temperature reading from our exterior thermocouples.

Our next steps in preparing the V 1.3 Cells for the V 2.0 protocols are to:

 - Add thermal grease to Cell A underneath copper bands

 - Continue to step 1. of the protocol designed for this experiment. Also shown in this table


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+1 #10 Malachi Heder 2013-05-03 21:29
@ All

Quick update. We have found a few bugs relating to the power controller. Our problem was that the power wasn't controlling as tightly as we have seen before. This will be worked on over the weekend and hopefully fixed.

In them mean time, we have the controllers working well enough to re-run the tail end of our pre-calibration on the oxide wires. This will be done over the weekend to complete our data set and then next week we will be at the point of loading celani wires inside our cells.

In regards to the LENR stick. We are going to pressurize it to 10 bar and let it run over the weekend. Hopefully there will be some more loading and some interesting activity.
+2 #9 Ecco 2013-05-03 17:08
@charlie tapp: no, I'm not a member of the MFMP and I don't have nor can afford the equipment for any serious test on a Celani cell replication. I'm just a curious person who happened to have followed this endeavour since its early stages, thinking it would soon provide clear confirmation of LENR. Today I'm less positive than before that it will, but I still keep watching.
-1 #8 charlie tapp 2013-05-03 16:45
@ecco just wondering are you part of mfmp? you seem to have a lot of knowledge of these expierements and i am in the same mind set and want to see undeniable proof which should be attainable without calimatry. but, i dont want to be pushy on asking for things because these guys are great and trying to make replication easy. so why dont some one do "like you mabee" do sepperate expierements that go outside of celani's box and somehow incorporate it into mfmp website. they might even see something they could use for replication. mfmp should send you an old cell to play with.
+1 #7 Rats 2013-05-02 23:22
Thanks for the summary.
+1 #6 Malachi Heder 2013-05-02 21:04
@ Rats

We have to do another pre-calibration because our temperature control box had a little problem. A flap cam off and changed our airflow inside the box. In our protocol for the V 1.3 experiment, this is step 0 :) So, no excess, yet.
+1 #5 Rats 2013-05-02 20:55
I have not posted here in a while. Would it be possible to get a summary of where we are and, more importantly, are we showing excess heat?
+1 #4 Malachi Heder 2013-04-30 21:13
@ Ecco

It should hold, 15 watts is right in the middle of our range. We don't know this for sure. Our preliminary calibration could tell us this once it is completed.

@ Edwin

I think you are right, especially for Cell A. Though, now we have thermal grease under Cell A's TCs. It should be tighter now like Cell B.

How, is the question. We will try to turn off the effect, assuming there is an effect to turn off :) Suggestions will be welcome before that moment arrives.
+1 #3 Edwin Pell 2013-04-30 18:17
The month of May is going to be very exciting.

How about making the range 3 mBar to 10 mBar? It does not seem so constant between 1 mBar and 3 mBar.

Step 9 burn time is of interest to me. I hope you have a chance to do this.

What do you mean by disable active cell in step 11? How will you disable it?

+1 #2 Ecco 2013-04-30 14:43
Does this still hold at different temperatures/in put power too?
0 #1 Robert Ellefson 2013-04-29 22:20

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