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EU Cell#2 active wire run (UPDATE #1 + New Video)

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We had very good results this afternoon, I tried to nail down the activation temperature using a passive heating after reducing the pressure to 1 bar and increasing the power in the NiCr wire. for a temperature of 184°C we were able to see T mica rising without any change in P_in. It kept oscillating with an amplitude at lower value as the temperature was set lower.

Then reducing power in several time allowed us to see that this behaviour was showing a lower amplitude.

The first run of the EU cell will occur at around 20:30 CET. We will have a range of power metrics for you. 

  • P_Out Low (W)  = The most conservative power in watts output from the cell calculated from the highest calibration curve fit

  • P_Out High (W) = The most optimistic power in watts output from the cell calculated from the lowest calibration curve fit 

  • P_Xs Low (W) = The most conservative EXCESS power calculated by the formulae

    P_Xs Low = P_Out Low - (Power (Blue) + Power (Red))


Today at 12:12:12 PST on the 12/12/12 (during the 21st CET hour) we will power the active wire and see if there is any excess heat generated from the cell. We should start at P_in = 48W to get the best replication of Celani’s work.

We have a “deliberate mistake” in the data viewer, if you are sober enough at this time in the day, we challenge you to spot it.

Wish us luck!

UPDATE #1 Flicking the switch

So, as of 2:55 Indian time I am seeing around 6W Pxs on our most conservative baseline.

Here was the moment of switchover of the Power. 

 

Bob 

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+1 #122 artefact 2012-12-14 14:10
have a nice lunchtime!
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+2 #121 Robert Greenyer 2012-12-14 13:57
@all

Lunch with CELANI - OPEN GOOGLE HANGOUT NOW!

Search for bob greenyer
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0 #120 Ecco 2012-12-14 13:43
Reviewing the data, just after input power was increased to 55W, at the same time of the sudden change in wire impedance, there also was an anomalous rise in reactor temperatures most probably not depending on external factors (air conditioning, etc). This rise was short lived, but relatively intense.

Could this have been due to some sort of short-term chemical reaction from the wire? Perhaps due to the release of more oxygen from it?
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0 #119 Ron B 2012-12-14 13:03
How does the accuracy of the thermocouple affect the readings we are viewing?

This is the accuracy for the thermocouples:
Temp Type E J K N R S T

200 1.7 1.5 1.5 1.5 1.0 1.0 0.8

http://digital.ni.com/public.nsf/allkb/776AB03E065228408625727B00034E20
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0 #118 Gerrit 2012-12-14 12:14
Quoting Ecco:
The higher the T_Ambient, the less the P_xs, though.


If the P_Xs calculation is based on the difference between a measured temperature and T_Ambient, then an increasing T_Ambient will decrease the offset and thus decrease P_Xs.
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0 #117 Philip Quarles 2012-12-14 11:45
I googled "Seebeck Calorimeter" and found this:

"Use Of A Very Sensitive Seebeck Calorimeter To Study The Pons-Fleischman n And Letts Effects" at http://lenr-canr.org/acrobat/StormsEuseofavery.pdf
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0 #116 Ecco 2012-12-14 11:37
The higher the T_Ambient, the less the P_xs, though.
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0 #115 Gerrit 2012-12-14 11:32
It seems the increase in power from 48W to 55W influenced T_Ambient.
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0 #114 Ecco 2012-12-14 10:58
Following the latest input power increase to 55W, active wire impedance started acting weirdly, decreasing in sudden steps. I think that after power will be brought back to 48W, wire impedance will turn out to be lower than before the power rise.

It will also be interesting to see if after decreasing input power back to 48W, excess power will be the same or will have increased. I'm starting to think that it's not got a definite relationship with wire impedance.
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-1 #113 Gerrit 2012-12-14 10:48
I looked at temp values from 8 december 01:00 to 12:00. There was no power switched on during that time.

All the temperature readings are in phase with T_Ambient.

Offset of T_Well, T_Mica, T_GlassIn and T_GlassOut could be due to pressure decrease during that time.

Larger offset of T-Board (approx +5°C) should be explained.

http://i.imgur.com/gXOcb.png
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