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The Martin Fleischmann Memorial Project is a group dedicated to researching Low Energy Nuclear Reactions (often referred to as LENR) while sharing all procedures, data, and results openly online. We rely on comments from online contributors to aid us in developing our experiments and contemplating the results. We invite everyone to participate in our discussions, which take place in the comments of our experiment posts. These links can be seen along the right-hand side of this page. Please browse around and give us your feedback. We look forward to seeing you around Quantum Heat.

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Two of the fun people we met at ICCF18 were both named Paul Breed.  They are dynamic father/son duo that like to make cool things like rockets happen when they aren't at their main jobs.  Lately they have taken a liking to LENR.  You can see their interesting test cells described amidst the cool rocket blog here:  Unreasonable Rocket

  <---------Rocket Science

  (and both Paul Breeds)

 

   Not Rocket Science---->

      (but just as cool!)                                           

 

                                                       

Over dinner, Paul (pictured above) started rattling off a bunch of things he would do if he was asked to do a validation test.  It was very timely because of the Defkalion live video demo that had happened that day, not to mention the Rossi validation that was published a couple months ago.  So, I asked him for some notes on his thoughts.  What I got is an awesome start for putting together the ultimate test protocol for a black box LENR type device.  Please help us make this document complete and articulate.  

My hope is that if we are asked to do a validation of a device without being able to see inside the device everyone including the inventor, our team, and the general public will know what to expect and be able to trust the results.  Furthermore, I hope this helps to set the bar for anyone doing a validation test or public demo.

Please help us refine this into a comprehensive, well articulated document.  You can review it here and make suggestions in the comments below, or request to get editing access to the original document.  (This document is also posted under the Collaborate menu)

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0 #3 Robert Greenyer 2013-08-03 13:14
@All

In the end, the prime motivation of the MFMP is to make this technology happen, to enable it to benefit the biosphere and its flora and fauna. Either by unquestionable demonstration or by forcing players to accelerate development, thereby encouraging investors to invest in promising routes to realisation.

To keep people on their toes, we will work with the freely available science, develop our own collective understanding and work with anyone that is willing to do so openly, to develop tools, software, calorimeters and reference reactors/techno logy that can all be used to further the field and develop practical applications.
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0 #2 bob 2013-08-03 10:37
@Robert Greenyer I've always had a concern about your sole sourcing wires from Celani with his patent pending. It could have an impact on your ability to raise funds by monitizing your LENR kits once you have the calorimeter issue settled. This was why I posted a note on the forum a while back suggesting a second source.

There is a precedent in the open source software community around patents. In real time Linux there are two main players; RTLinux and RTAI. Both started with very similar ideas on how to modify the Linux kernel to introduce hard real time capabilities. The RTLinux group decided to patent their technology but allow free licences for their patent to all open source implementations and applications. On the surface it looked like a logical strategy to prevent others from grabbing the technology. However the real time Linux community didn't trust the RTLinux group's intentions. The crowd migrated to the RTAI project which was patent free.
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0 #1 bob 2013-08-02 13:11
Black box testing is something MFMP should steer clear of in my opinion. Typically the "client" for such tests will be a commercial venture (eg. Rossi, Defkalion) with a commercial agenda. I don't have a problem with a commercial agenda per say, but I do have a problem with MFMP giving those enties what effectively amounts to free publicity. I say let them pay for their own advertising. If they have a compelling need for independent proof of their product claims, they should go to a completely independent lab and pay for testing. Otherwise they should simply bring their product to market and offer it for sale. In any case MFMP would not be viewed as a critical independent lab by virtue of the fact that we are in the LENR field ourselves.

If those commercial enties want to do private R&D that is their privilege. If they are willing to play by the LOS rules, then by all means we should welcome them and their technology to the pool. Otherwise we should go our separate ways. The fact that they are even talking about black box demos proves that they need us much more than we need them.
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