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			<title>Charles Richer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4800</link>
			<description><![CDATA[In hydrogen MASER, the hydrogen mono-atomic resonator cavity is coated with fluoridated or chlorinated plastics to prevent gas species collapse. A gas lens or reflector with the thermocouples at the focal point may increase the effect significantly. I can't think of a way to balance the distribution other then to isolate differences through systematic measurements and statistical analysis.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Charles Richer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 14 Jan 2014 21:37:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>dan winter says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4781</link>
			<description><![CDATA[we have some momentum exploring the langmuir process we see the catalysis metal role should be looking for deuterium we expanded our original frequency trigger hydrogen project www.fractalfield.com/hydrogen (based on www.fractalfield.com/mathematicsoffusion now we are looking at langmuir / atomic hydrogen.. (jean paul biberian is working with us we should chat Skype danwinter (ref bill d.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>dan winter</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jan 2014 17:56:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4754</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@bob The point of the tests proposed by Giorgio Vassallo and Celani carried out here buy the US team HUG is not to confirm that 4.5eV is put into and taken out of Hydrogen as it splits and re-combines. The point is several 1. to see if it occurs at all as, theoretically it should not occur at these low [mean bulk material] temperatures. 2. to test the langmuir hypothesis that may explain all or part of the apparent excess heat 3. If H2 and D2 disassociation are critical to excess heat production, having a standardised experimental cell such as that developed in Minnesota for this test will help screen wires [that have undergone a variation in processing] for their potential LENR yield. Where rate of monoatomic production may be a proxy for capability of LENR activity. With regards to the steel and glass cells, we have now secured the fund to re-run them, but Nicolas is very tied up with other work and, well it is the "silly season". He is taking delivery of some of the needed replacement components in this week and we have the needed wires - but some machining that needs to be done is delayed by a volunteer moving jobs and HUGs machinist is off on break till middle of January. We have literally minutes ago finished discussing this as a group and the plan is we are going to post the solid works cad files and ask if anyone is able to machine the part sooner. Since the experiment may take 6 weeks to run, the more we have to wait to start it, the more frustrating things get.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 19:07:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@ Bob A core issue here involves the calorimetry used in the glass-envelope cells. There is good evidence that glass can act as a recombination catalyst. If the temperature measured at the glass is skewed by the heat of recombination while the heat lost to splitting H2 occurs at the wire core, the calorimetry accuracy will be impaired. This experiment is an attempt to test that hypothesis. Water-bath calorimetry would eliminate this possible error but the response time is much slower than the glass differential T as used in the Celani type cell.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:38:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>bob says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4752</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Robert I understand the "need" for H2 to dissociate as a precursor to any LENR reaction. This dissociation can and does occur when H2 absorbs into the lattice or even when it adsorbs on the surface, so I'm not convinced that it has to occur in the gas phase also for LENR reactions to be possible. My point had to do with the thought that simple recombination of H into H2 could produce excess heat. It would certainly be an exotermic reaction but it can't produce more heat than was consumed by the dissociation reaction. Are there any plans to rerun the water bucket test?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 17:22:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>charlie tapp says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@bob the atomic hydrogen torch invented by irving langmuir, yields not only the heat evolved as water vapor, but also a much larger amount of heat, equal to the energy expended in breaking up the hydrogen molecules into atoms. i believe the heat evolved as water vapor would probably be the exess. i do not know if dr. langmuir was involved with lenr reactions way back then 1881-1957 but this torch is estimated at 4000 deg. c . it is used for cutting and welding metals that cannot be welded at lower temps. and it has been faded out by other processes,proba bly because of lenr you know the old make it go away and no one will look at it]]></description>
			<dc:creator>charlie tapp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 15:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4750</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Bob Many scientists say that it is necessary to have mono atomic hydrogen/deuter ium (ie chemically seperated) as a pre-requisite for the LENR nuclear reaction to take place, be that H - H, D - D fusion or transmutation, say H + Ni > Cu. The yield from the nuclear events is many orders of magnitude above the chemical. Since Celani wire reactors have neither ionising radiation, lasers or electric discharge, it is great supporting evidence that the apparent excess could be coming from LENR if sound results can demonstrate that the wires can split Hydrogen. This may be a catalytic and or resonant / boundary thermal statistical variation driven process. The S&G cell, which we are nearly in a position to run again, if it repeats the same kind of results as before, supports also that the excess is not merely a disparity between a cell that can't create mono atomic hydrogen and recombination at the glass surface and one that can. It addresses the Langmuir hypothesis for apparent excess heat. Furthe experiments to establish the mean free path etc might point to experiment designs that would be resistant to the Langmuir question whilst being simpler than the S&G.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 14:49:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>bob says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-4749</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Robert. I'm failing to understand how H2 dissociation/re combination can result in excess heat. Thermodynamics would tell us that you would never have a fully reversible reaction so this reaction should be a heat sink not a heat source. Ie. more energy consumed to dissociate than you get back on recombination. I do agree that these reactions could be separated in time and in space so unless integrating calorimetry is used (eg. Your water bucket test) you could get a false positive.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 12 Dec 2013 13:41:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Malachi Heder says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@ Joseph Mitchell We are using a silver wire (Ag) instead of the Cu wire from earlier experiments.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Malachi Heder</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 15:13:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[Great work Ryan and team HUG. Would be good to see if a borosilicate tube instead of platinum had a similar differential - since this is one of the main potential outstanding questions about apparent excess heat... that the Langmuir effect may be causing heating at the glass due to it catalysing the recombination of mono atomic hydrogen and the energy release that would yield. So if the Platinum findings are repeatable then doing it with the borosilicate would settle that debate one way or other. The great thing about this work is that Celani does not have a plasma, laser or ionising radiation source to disassociate H2 - and if, as many researchers postulate, mono atomic hydrogen/deuter ium is critical to LENR, then being able o demonstrate that Celanis wire can split H2 might support the idea that apparent excess heat could come from LENR. It would be splitting by something that would appear to be catalytic but more likely an statistical energy variance or resonance brought about by the nano structures created in his metal preparation.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 11 Dec 2013 02:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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