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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1618</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Somsone Big thanks for that tip - I had not heard of Colchicine, it does not seam to have the full smorgasbord of side effects that Indomethacin has - only permanent neural damage - but none of the heart failure and other stuff. My current loose stools could well be a side effect - so if that is the worst you suffer, I shall look out for it. I am feeling a few twinges in my toe right now which I hope will subside. As any gout sufferer will know, if there was a means of converting pain to electricity it could power the universe!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 12:16:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1616</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Eric It is a fun ride for sure. Will make a great documentary. I was aware that they were / are British, but the recent public UK progress in this field is lamentable.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:41:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1614</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@all The project was doing live calibrations over Christmas and a live run was meant to start on the 31st - but there have been a series of setbacks as you can see above. There have been Log book entries up till 4th. We are working very hard in the background. For my part, I was visiting an Indian authority representative with a view to their top scientific bodies taking an active role in the project. Given that the Chinese, Japanese and Koreans are active already in LENR or open to it, I am looking forward to the time when western authorities outside Italy start taking a similarly serious interest in this field. I dispair that the land of my birth, UK, is so absent in the LENR chronicles especially so given that Fleischmann was British. I had to travel to a distant town for the meeting, whilst there, I had seafood, pulses and beer and so suffered a severe Gout attack, having medicated with Indomethacin, one of the few chemicals that makes a difference - I was one of the lucky 1% to suffer the severe psychological side effects of the drug, subsequent to which I got dysentery including high fever which I am currently recovering from. Thankyou for your continued attention, normal programming will resume shortly!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 07:02:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Rats says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1613</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I too am curious as to when we'll see the latest test cell in action.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Rats</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2013 02:42:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Somsone says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1612</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I see the updates have stopped since december 31st. Did the project take a week off or has it been halted ?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Somsone</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 23:37:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1611</link>
			<description><![CDATA[#29 @Eric, that's why I suggested a simpler (and inert) support system consisting of nothing more than sheet mica. The good, capacitor-grade stuff from India or Russia should do just fine. No binder.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 05:15:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Eric Walker says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1610</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I wonder whether the binder is much of an issue. The way for this experiment to be considered an unqualified success is to see a time integral of power generation well above anything possible in a prolonged chemical reaction. So even if the binder was somehow contributing heat, this would contribute at most a second order effect in a successful set of runs. As Sanjeev mentions, it is possible that the binder could hinder a possible LENR reaction, although it might also catalyze one. It does, however, add an additional variable into the mix, making considerations more complex.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Eric Walker</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 07 Jan 2013 03:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1609</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Here's a chart to illustrate: http://magicsound.us/MFMP/chart4.jpg]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 19:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>David Roberson says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1607</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Something unusual is happening with the latest run. At about 4/5 of the way to the end of the 103 watt power input level there is a noticeable increase in power output. Did someone modify the test at that time? Check out the system at 1/5/2013 at 1:27. If the wire were loaded and of the proper type, I would assume this peak demonstrates excess power. This is for cell data:FC0101.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>David Roberson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2013 02:05:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1606</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The previous blog "Rebuilt" shows the pre-baking of the mica with a heat gun set to 530 C. The setup looks good, with nice insulation around the tube, and 4 hours seems like it should do the job. I mentioned the binder pre-baking only to eliminate it as a possible source of the black goo, and suggested hydrogen reduction as another possible explanation. The pre-baking is an oxidation process and would result in a different set of decomposition products. I contacted a supplier of sheet mica (AXIM) to ask about hydrogen reactivity. They had no info about it, so the search goes on.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 17:24:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1605</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Chuck, Yes, its very likely that someone will object that the H2 is reacting with mica or impurities in glass or leaked air or with any of the dozen things that are around the wire. The answer is that if chemical reactions are taking place in the run with Celani wire, they are also happening during calibration run with inactive wire. So the chemical component of excess heat will be same in both cases and will cancel out, because P_xs is a difference. The chemical reactions, if any, will most likely use up the fuel in a few minutes. After many days of run, there will be hardly anything left to burn. In fact, since the final run comes after calibration, it can not produce more chemical-heat than the calibration run. But it is necessary to clean it lest it possibly poisons the lenr effect.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 10:22:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1604</link>
			<description><![CDATA[#21, AlanG, see my #4 on this thread. Bottom line to me seems to be that if you have anything more than the wire and a bunch of glass or sheet mica in that tube when you heat it, your measurements will be called into question. I believe that this thing really has to be made of ueber-clean and non-reacting materials to get some real data. ...and that's what I've been trying to get at in my postings.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 09:56:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1603</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@AlanG Thankyou for your investigation]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2013 04:37:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1602</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Further info on mica binder resins. There's a good article at http://grimminger-online.net/Polyurethane/Dateien/Fundamentals/Silicones%20Chem%20Tech%20Chp6-end.PDF It recommends pre-baking at 400 C to fully sinter the binder resin into stable pyrogenic silicone]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 19:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1601</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Ryan Hunt "Any other suggestions?" Maybe the mica binder is reacting with hydrogen. From http://sz-apr.com/en/youji.asp?id=45 http://magicsound.us/MFMP/mica_binder.jpg Those dangling OH ends look vulnerable, though the CH3-Si bonds are much stronger, according to http://www.gelest.com/goods/pdf/Library/10BondDiss.pdf.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 17:52:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1600</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Martin Actually Celani has decades of experience and is supported by major industrial, engineering and electrical companies. It is expected that he made several of the errors we are doing and missed some. In defining a reliable, repeatable experiment and protocol it is a good thing that we are so unfortunate as this will help define the experiments usage manual!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 16:07:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Martin says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1599</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I am just a layman, but I am following this story with excitement. To be honest, I have a hard time to follow all details, but what I do understand is the fact, that it's not easy to replicate Celani's findings and you guys are stumbling over problems all the time. Now one question comes to my mind. Did Celani have faced all these issues as well, and did he address them? If he does not have solutions for all these problems, it appears to me that he did not go into detail as deep as you do. That puts a big questionmark behind his readings, doesn't it? After all you guys are not replicating but improving and validating his setup. I hope, there will be rock hard evidence for excess power at the end, but as I see it, there still is a good chance that Celani's measurements were merely based on a faulty setup. Or am I totally wrong?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Martin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 11:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>MK says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1598</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Chuck suggested a coaxial design. Maybe an "off the shelf" heating element that is used in radiation heaters can be used? Example:http:// www.frys.com/pr oduct/6431862?s ite=sr:SEARCH:M AIN_RSLT_PG]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MK</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 09:40:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1597</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@ecco, Why not simply place the heater in a quartz/glass tube in the center and sealed on both ends so that the hydrogen never has the opportunity to come in contact with it? In other works, a coaxial design.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2013 05:54:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>clovis ray says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1596</link>
			<description><![CDATA[probably has to get very hot to produce emf, but it could be emitting at a cool cat range,]]></description>
			<dc:creator>clovis ray</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:54:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>clovis ray says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1595</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, guys. I see where Mr. Rossi, is detecting emf coming off his e-cat. are we still collecting data of the cells in regards to radiation of different types. is there a way to check for emf on our rigs.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>clovis ray</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 19:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1594</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Chuck: @Ryan Hunt: Yes, interesting. What about something like this? http://i.imgur.com/rW7Cv.png http://i.imgur.com/rW7Cv.png No "inert wire" inside the cell. Auxiliary heating would be provided by a cartridge heater. I'm not sure how feasible this would be (also, how would the cartridge heater respond in hydrogen atmosphere). Also, the active wire would make short radius turns at the mica disk supports. This could affect its mechanical properties. Another drawback is that the heater would add a significant amount of mass inside the glass. Hmm, maybe not a very good idea after all.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:50:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1593</link>
			<description><![CDATA[More black goo, Ryan? That's very bad news--it puts any result that you might get out this iteration into very serious doubt. Is there a particular reason that the wire needs to be wound in a helix around the insulating rod? What if the wire were to be threaded back and forth through some holes perforated in very light mica discs (acting as wire supports), light-bulb filament style?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 18:27:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1592</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@ David - The averaging routine is just a simple mean of the readings that came during the previous time period to the timestamp. In other words, the timestamp marks the time at the end of the averaging period. The php code that executes it is all contained in: https://github.com/hugllc/HUGnetLib/blob/master/src/php/db/FastAverage.php]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 16:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1588</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It must have not been fully off gassed. We came in this morning to more black residue. The pressure rose considerably, again, and there is almost as much residue on the wires as before. I guess it just need to cook out. We set the power to hold at the high point in the calibration and we will just watch the pressure rise till it stops and hope that means it has all cooked off.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:31:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1583</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wire wound on ceramic support would solve the problem.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:44:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>David Roberson says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1582</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If you knew what the material was that is causing the problem it would be possible to use some form of "getter" to capture it. Old vacuum tubes had a small piece of sacrificial metal to absorb the oxygen remaining after sealing as I recall.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>David Roberson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2013 00:09:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1581</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Ryan, do you bake the materials at, a higher temperature than you'll be using (say, 400C) before assembly? That might help to avoid further contamination.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1580</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is cleaned and being vacuum tested. The black residue was like carbon dust and came off the wire easily. We replaced the wire, instead of cleaning, anyway.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:32:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1579</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We replaced instead of cleaned. The new mica material probably contained a binding glue that came out at high temps. The only thing we did not replace was the metal and the pass throughs. Those we cleaned with ethanol and acetone.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:31:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1578</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Is this the same cell that was cleaned? If so, was it baked at high temperatures before being used. That black goo might be the result of contamination from the cleaning process.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:26:49 +0000</pubDate>
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