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			<title>charlie tapp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1589</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@ chuck why not use pure nickel for a run? why the constantan is there a reason?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>charlie tapp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2013 15:58:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>russ says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1577</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Ammoniated solvents work pretty good on copper fouling...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>russ</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:24:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1576</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@charlie_tapp, we're using a constantan alloy here, which is mostly (approx 55%) copper. As copper has a substantially lower boiling point than nickel, it's what comes off first. Why a pure nickel wire or even a nichrome wire won't exhibit the same characteristics is unknown to me.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:22:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>charlie tapp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1572</link>
			<description><![CDATA[why did the wires throw off copper i thought they were nickel? were did the copper come from? looks pretty cool though. mabee someone will buy it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>charlie tapp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:50:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1568</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This subject of cleaning the glass brought up another question that I hope someone can answer. While keeping the glass clear makes for nice pictures, is there any particular reason that the glass must be transparent? Namely, what would be the effect if the glass were cleaned using hydrofluoric acid to simply etch the top contaminated surface off? Would the opacity of the frosted glass disturb or enhance measurement accuracy?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:36:52 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1567</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If thermal/IR transparency is an issue, the glass tubes can probably be reused by carefully wrapping them with thick metallic foil (= the tubes alone. Not also the flange supports as temporarily performed on the EU cell). With a guaranteed 100% IR-opaque tube, input energy will inevitably come out in the form of heat. You could leave a small clear "window" to check for wire conditions if needed. This would be a nice advantage compared to using a completely metallic tube. Of course, new calibrations would be needed. Also I'm not sure if the remaining oxide coating on the inside would affect the reaction. It's worth trying in my opinion, though. On the vertically mounted rig this could be done on the second cell while keeping the first one properly/cleanl y built. I'm assuming that the quartz tube was still being used just for testing and not really serious analysis (since it's been proven to not faithfully replicate Celani's testing conditions).]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 19:02:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dieter Seeliger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1566</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Alan, thnx for the link Alan, very interresting will study this in detail. I think Hydrogen catalysis is a key to LENR reactions, so this catalysis on glass surface could be a step in the right direction.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dieter Seeliger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 18:55:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Alain Coetmeur says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1565</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ seems right, and even if cleaned it might be cleaner than before... however if you recalibrate from scratch, the metalization may increase opacity of the glass to IR...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alain Coetmeur</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 17:05:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1564</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Dieter "I think, there is no way of cleaning the glass." Bichromic acid is often used to clean glass for biological and chemical assays and to prepare mercury barometers. Here's an interesting paper on the effect of the cleaning process on the hydrogen catalysis of both quartz and pyrex glass: http://eprints.lib.hokudai.ac.jp/dspace/bitstream/2115/24735/1/9%281%29_P42-54.pdf]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 16:24:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dieter Seeliger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1563</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think, there is no way of cleaning the glass. Even if you managed a good visible cleaning, there still remains a invisible trace of copper on the glass which throws all of you calibration curves off, because the IR transparency is affected.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dieter Seeliger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 10:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ron B says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1562</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Sanjeev You are right. Celani himself said he things there's a small reaction from the untreated wire (as I recall)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 08:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1560</link>
			<description><![CDATA[:lol: Stuff happens. I'm sure you will find a way to clean up the glass, there must be some liquid cleaner etc or hard acid, like Chuck suggested. May be you are trying to do too much at once. Why not get a Celani wire which is known to work at a particular temperature and pressure and try to reproduce the effect. You will need to calibrate only once for that temperature and pressure. After that there will be a lot of time to improvise and there will be a long line of investors with sacks full of $ at your door. Just my simplistic thinking, not trying to deviate from the plans...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 04:41:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dennis Jacques says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1559</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Acetone on a rag mag take the coating off... works well with aluminum on quartz....]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dennis Jacques</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 30 Dec 2012 03:11:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Chuck says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1558</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wouldn't a soak in aqua regia clean off the deposited metal?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Chuck</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 23:44:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Erik says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1557</link>
			<description><![CDATA[In swedish: "Milda makaroner" - Mild macaroni (curse uttered by a super strong cartoon bear who is sometimes accused of being a communist) It's at times like this we really need guys like you, who have a documented path to restore everything!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Erik</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 20:57:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1556</link>
			<description><![CDATA[This incident reminded me of a comment in the DIscussion blog pointing to an analysis of Irving Langmuir's work at GE on the behavior of heated hydrogen in a glass vessel: http://www.gifnet.org/articles/Langmuir%20&%20Atomic%20Hydrogen.pdf Here's one possibly relevant quote: "moisture poisons the catalytic activity of the dry glass surfaces that otherwise converts atomic into molecular hydrogen. Thus with moist hydrogen the tube becomes filled with nearly pure atomic hydrogen and the diffusion of this to the catalytically active tungsten wire causes the heating of the latter. ." Since the reaction we're studying may involve atomic hydrogen, this is a possible factor in thermal measurements. Deposition of evaporated metal ions on the glass even in small (invisible) quantity would likely complicate things in more unknown ways. Think of the unexplained state transitions we appear to be occasionally seeing.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ron B says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1555</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Ryan, I could have been much worse. It could have been the active wire that glowed red hot and got damaged. That would have been a real swearing event.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 18:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dieter Seeliger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1554</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Ryan, could you please send me a PM to my e-mail account. I have an idea of using another new type of detector to your cells. I want to discuss this first by mail before putting this to the public domain.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dieter Seeliger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ged says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1553</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Oh cruddy crud cruds! Man, I've had moments like that during my experiments and it's just... gaaaaaaaaaaaaah hh! But, at least you can pick up and move on. Set backs are so frustrating, but sounds like you guys are already back on track. Who knows, maybe something good will yet come of this. At least getting to practice your cell making skills, right?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ged</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 17:09:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1552</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We are in the process of rebuilding both cells. The metal that condensed onto the Macor and Mica made the surface mostly conductive, so we are replacing all that. We used our last piece of Pyrex glass to replace the one we just coated with metal. Fortunately, I am not seeing much difference in actual performance between the borosilicate and quartz glass. If the LENR output is in bursts of near IR, then we might miss some of it with the quartz. Or we might see that through the quartz.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:53:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dieter Seeliger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1551</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Uuuuups.... I think there is no way of cleaning the inner surface. Do you have some replacements at hand ? Check your turbo pump for contamination !!!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dieter Seeliger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:45:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1550</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The vacuum was under 100 mTorr and the power was at about 100W]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:36:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Dieter Seeliger says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1549</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I hope it`s not fubar....... What`s the power level when this happened and to which pressure did you evacuate the cell`s ?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Dieter Seeliger</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 16:07:16 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1549</guid>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-1546</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Oh fiddlesticks English (UK) reserved, stiff upper lip curse]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2012 05:47:44 +0000</pubDate>
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