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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3611</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Paul We are exploring higher energy and pressure regimes in the US in the CTC and similar experiments - however wet cells like these are a very different animal.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:28:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@Andreas Van Rooijen I forgot to say - once all parameters can be accurately tracked there is still the fact that these cells don't work for very long periods and so there is always the criticisms derived from that. This is the real challenge facing these types of cells becoming a lab rat. Powders and wires can be stimulated, triggered and treated to iterate and build understanding and we can show we can produce cells that produce very little excess when not treated right or damped into submission - in these apparatus, the signal jumps out. The noise is huge in Mizuno experiments, data wise and laterally!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:21:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@Jamie Sibley This is all about current density and plasma ion energetics. Pressure and voltage are key to exploring these parameters more fully and this unique high pressure cells purpose is just this. In previous Mizuno type cells, the inability of the apparatus to operate at high pressure and elevated temperatures (well above 100ºC) limited J-P B to lower input voltages. This is why this experiment is exciting.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:14:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
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			<description><![CDATA[@Andreas Van Rooijen He has been a weekly regular in the Mathieu's MFMP outpost of late which is great, but also accounts for the gaps in development on this cell. After the initial structural failures, the modified cell should be quite reliable moving forward and there is plenty to experiment with. It is great that we have J-P B promoting and actively involved with this work as he brings such great experience with these kind of experiments to this unique apparatus. The nature of the input power makes these kinds of experiments hard to measure and quantify and it needs a trained eye. What we might like to do is open up these complexities to the crowd and seek opinion on how to categorically nail the cumulative input power so that we can be more sure about reporting COPs of this level and higher. It is easy to measure the weight of water lost with the scales, it is relatively easy to measure the temperature of the vessel and the pressure. The challenging part is integrating the input from the PSU over time accurately.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:08:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Jamie Sibley says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3606</link>
			<description><![CDATA[A possible explanation for excess gas production: From the viewpoint of current only, the Mizuno cell does appear to produce more gas that should be possible. However, from an energy standpoint, operating the electrolysis cell over 1.45 volts results in wasted energy as heat. It would be more efficient to run the higher input voltage through a dc-dc converter before entering the electrolysis cell. For example, providing 1A at 100V to a Mizuno cell might produce 1.15 units of gas, but taking that 100 watts of power, stepping it down to 1.5 volts would give 67 units of gas. I propose that the high velocities of the conductive electrolyte solution are somehow operating as a chemical step-down transformer and delivering more current to the electrodes that the input current to the cell, albeit at a lower potential. In this case, there would be no new physics involved.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Jamie Sibley</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 18:03:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Paul says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3601</link>
			<description><![CDATA[If the apparent level of excess energy continues, will the high voltage/pressur e regime be applied to other experiments?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 16:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Andreas Van Rooijen says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3596</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It is great to see that Prof Biberian is taking such an active role. I hope that you soon can tell whether any doubts can be addressed. Could this test be the lab rat for third party's?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Andreas Van Rooijen</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:14:53 +0000</pubDate>
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