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			<title>Richard Pollack says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3871</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Just for fun, why not make the cell "nickel and glass"? Also, consider that the glass may be an active agent.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Richard Pollack</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jul 2013 11:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3783</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Sorry, I was referring to the entire HUGNetLab live data facility. Some sort of temporary problem was preventing live data for all experiments to be streamed, and therefore potentially for this experiment too, which was expected to start today.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:17:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3782</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Ecco Might not happen till monday... getting the ambient patched into the board and a new test on the Data feeds.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 19:08:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3774</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Live data is not getting streamed to the public right now.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 12 Jul 2013 11:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3742</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@All So it looks like these will be going for a new run. - Ambient will be recorded - The data will be live - there will be a switch after a period of time Mostly the same protocol - targeting same stirred volume of water to same temp. Blog update to come.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 10 Jul 2013 14:14:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Bruce Ikelheimer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3732</link>
			<description><![CDATA[My one comment would be to ensure there is at least some insulation between the buckets to avoid any cross-bucket heat transfer. Something simple like a chunk of foam should be fine.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Bruce Ikelheimer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 09 Jul 2013 14:28:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlexRa says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3641</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Again about wire preparation: Edwin A. Pell claims self-sustaining heat in ISOTAN wire, includes detailed description of the experiment: http://22passi.blogspot.fr/2013/07/la-costantana-alla-celani-in-self.html (the page itself is in Italian, but the interesting part in English)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlexRa</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 07:36:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Paul says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3637</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Bob I think that's my point. You can achieve equilibrium in two ways: 1) by injecting unequal power into equal heat collectors and letting Px make up the difference, or 2) inject equal power into unequal collectors and let Px make up the difference. To my mind, it's easier to measure temperature differentials than vary power input while measuring temperature differentials.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 02:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>bob says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3630</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@paul It is is important to recognize that the water in this experiment is acting as a thermal collector and not as a heat sink. The room is the heat sink. This experiment is credible precisely because the control and the active cell have the same geometry and thermal collector volume. This equivalence is maintained for long duration runs to prove that the excess heat measured is outside the realm of a chemical reaction.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 03 Jul 2013 00:22:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Paul says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3627</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Perhaps it would be simpler to match temperatures by adding water to the active cell while supplying equal power to both. If you expect 10% excess power, then add 10% more water to the active cell and if T1=T2, you have your answer.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paul</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 23:14:08 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>bob says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3619</link>
			<description><![CDATA[We could simultest the concept of a radial conduction calorimeter by taping (foil or metal tape best) some thermcouples to exterior wall of the buckets. We know that heat flux is proportional to delta T across a conductive path (in this case the bucket wall). To force all heat flux out radially, the top and bottom of the buckets should be insulated (styrofoam). If done correctly we should find a cleaner corelation between this delta T and the heat flux (as measured by the input power to the control cell at steady state). If this radial conduction calorimetry proves worthy, we can greatly simplify this apparatus going forward.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 20:34:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3615</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Edwin Pell I loved that idea at the time it was posted along with the fascinating videos, but as I noted at the time, we are vigorously agitating/stirr ing the water in these cells and so I fear any oil would become an emulsion or suspension in the water and be ineffective. I did suggest maybe making the whole fluid an oil - but this would require something with low viscosity and complicate replication. Given that the surface area and volume/spacial arrangement is the same and we are targeting the same temp and the high heat capacity of water, I think it is not so bad. One potentially good solution to reduce evaporation would be to have a humidifier in the room maybe. This might raise room temp a little but could reduce evaporation rate... that reminds me - we should have a humidity sensor, anyone suggest one that can be hooked up in 4 days - I think you can buy those ones that can be attached to the web from electronic shops. suggestions please.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Edwin Pell says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3614</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm easy. I like it the way it is. The only thing I would like to add is a layer of oil on top of the water to slow evaporation. Thin layer, olive oil is fine or car motor oil.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Edwin Pell</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 19:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3599</link>
			<description><![CDATA[An idea for a future run (I imagine you would have time modifying the cell only after ICCF18). Make it a dual walled, externally heated, insulated steel tube. In this way you can achieve much higher internal temperatures, higher pressures and maybe self-sustainmen t too. http://i.imgur.com/YRpO1Gt.png http://i.imgur.com/YRpO1Gt.png]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 15:45:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3595</link>
			<description><![CDATA[The most obvious and least expensive alternative would be measuring the surface temperature of these cells like with standard glass Celani cells. The main advantage with the S&G setup would be eliminating all problems about glass tube IR transparency (but be sure to also measure flange temperature). Since the active cell has already been "activated" there would probably be problems with calibrations, though.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:56:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3594</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Do these cells just have to be submerged in open water buckets? That really complicates things too much. Nobody is ever going to reach an agreement on the results as long as the expected excess heat will be in the 5-10% range. People will say that it's within the error margin for such a crude experiment. My opinion is that you should either: - use more standard calorimetry. The CTC cell of the US team is a good compromise, their upcoming water flow calorimetry looks almost ideal; - insulate the cells as much as possible to make them self-sustain, although the glass tube setup might prevent this. Once the cell appears to produce heat without input energy (or with unreasonably little input energy), all discussions about calorimetry won't make much sense anymore; - increase the SNR, making the xs heat effect power significantly more prominent, although limited active wire availability might prevent this from happening.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:52:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>bob says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3592</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Great news. I look forward to this next run. What about incorporating a third bucket with a straight joule heater in steel tube same size as actual. That way we can see if this could act as a simpler control in future runs. Also in a future run it may be worth seeing if near total emersion with heavily insulated top flange (where all the electrical pass throughs are) might be an acceptable compromise.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>bob</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 02 Jul 2013 14:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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