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			<dc:creator>PetraChief</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 07 Mar 2018 21:05:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Virginia says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9037</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hallo! ich einfach Auff den Merk geben Ihne einen bbig thumbs uup für diee ausgezeichnete Informationen Siee haben, hieer hier zu diesem Beitrag. Ich werde Rückkehr Blog für mehnr bald.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Virginia</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 21 Feb 2018 17:14:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Josef says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9030</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Erstaunlich! Dieser Blog sieht genau gerade wiie mein alter! Es ist auuf einem vollständig unterschiedlich en Thema , aber es hat ziemlich die gleiche Layout uund Design. Ausgezeichnete Wahl der Farben!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:49:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Josef says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9029</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Erstaunlich! Dieser Blog sieht genau gerade wiie mein alter! Es ist auuf einem vollständig unterschiedlich en Thema , aber es hat ziemlich die gleiche Layout uund Design. Ausgezeichnete Wahl der Farben!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:47:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Josef says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9028</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Erstaunlich! Dieser Blog sieht genau gerade wiie mein alter! Es ist auuf einem vollständig unterschiedlich en Thema , aber es hat ziemlich die gleiche Layout uund Design. Ausgezeichnete Wahl der Farben!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Josef</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 19 Feb 2018 21:46:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Alethea says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9016</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Einne Person Wesentlichen behilflich um kritisch Beiträge Ich würde Zustand . Das ist die erste allererste Mal, dass ich besucht Ihre Wenseite und bislang?I erstaunt mit Analyse Sie gemacht machen diese besondere übermitteln erstaunliche. Magnificent Prozess!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alethea</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 14:58:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Kala says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9014</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Diees sind wirkich great zzum Thdma Blogging. Punkte hier Sie haben einigte berührt. Jede Art und Weise halten Wrinting.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Kala</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 15 Feb 2018 00:23:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Arnold says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9008</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow Hurra,das ist, wwas ich suchen für, was für ein stuff! vorhandenen hier auf dieser Website dank Admin dieser Website Webseite.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Arnold says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-9007</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Wow Hurra,das ist, wwas ich suchen für, was für ein stuff! vorhandenen hier auf dieser Website dank Admin dieser Website Webseite.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Arnold</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 11 Feb 2018 22:10:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>cs go giveaway says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-8757</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Incredible points. Great arguments. Keep up the great effort.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>cs go giveaway</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2017 20:12:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>cs go giveaway says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-8756</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Incredible points. Great arguments. Keep up the great effort.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>cs go giveaway</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2017 20:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>hoodies and jackets says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-8723</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Fine way of describing, and good piece of writing to take data regarding my presentation subject matter, which i am going to deliver in academy.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>hoodies and jackets</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:30:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Ellefson says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3366</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Sanjeev: You walk up to an Engineer, and ask, "Please tell me, yes or no, can pigs fly?" With a brief pause to gather his response, the engineer replies "Yes." Rather surprised, you seek out a distinguished Biologist, and ask, "Please tell me, yes or no, can pigs fly?" Without so much as a pause, the biologist quickly and contemptively issues a stern "NO!" before walking away. Satisfied with the pertinent authority's answer, you then return home to your visiting cousin, who is about to depart on an overseas trip. You share your newfound information with him. While at first he is discouraged, he later decides to take a risk, and find out for himself. So, he packs his suitcase, kisses his family goodbye, and heads off with his prize-winning potbelly pig in tow, properly behaving itself on leash. When he arrives at the airport, the ticket agent answers "Yes, with these conditions..."]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Ellefson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 23 Jun 2013 18:17:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3235</link>
			<description><![CDATA[From Mats Lewan's site https://matslew.wordpress.com/2013/06/10/update-of-swedish-italian-report-and-swedish-pilot-e-cat-customer-wanted/ So finally someone confirmed it, as the specs say, PCE-830 cannot detect any DC, not values, nor waveform. This means that, to eliminate this major criticism, another test with proper RMS meters is a must now.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Thu, 13 Jun 2013 01:02:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3187</link>
			<description><![CDATA[http://xxx.lanl.gov/ftp/arxiv/papers/1305/1305.3913.pdf Report is now updated with an appendix. It shows the input waveforms and a connection diagram. Can the PCE-830 show a DC offset in the waveform if it is present ? Anyone with some experience with PCE here ?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jun 2013 01:27:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>MikeS says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-3129</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Rossi's E-Cat has fascinated me ever since a friend told me about it. I have a couple of computer science degrees and more of an EE background than the average compsci, but I'm not an engineer or scientist. Have any of you seen this scathing review of the independent test? Some of his points make sense to me (from a layman's point-of-view). Any thoughts from those of you who are higher on the sci and eng food chain than I am? http://scienceblogs.com/startswithabang/2013/05/21/the-e-cat-is-back-and-people-are-still-falling-for-it/ The author is clearly convinced that Rossi is a fraud. Me? I have no idea--but I have to say that Rossi's weird antics over the last couple of years make me somewhat more skeptical. The friend who told me about E-Cat has a good point when he reminds me that Rossi's inability to patent anything w/ "cold fusion" attached means that Rossi's goal is to sell E-Cats, not satisfy the scientific curiosity of others.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>MikeS</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jun 2013 00:53:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Mitch Trachtenberg says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2968</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I do not know if LENR is real. I am intrigued by the Celani results and by the nature of the MFMP. I found the SRI online presentation on LENR interesting and it certainly points to a real phenomenon. When you claim to be able to produce utility levels of power, it would be trivial to do an air-gap demonstration proving your power production. His failure over years to do a demo that satisfies the majority of the scientific press leaves me extremely dubious. The demo really is not hard to do properly. That's the sum of my reasoning.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mitch Trachtenberg</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 15:26:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Alain Coetmeur says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2965</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Just to help, you can look at my scoop.it to see the media coverage of LENR http://www.scoop.it/t/lenr-revolution-in-process-cold-fusion I gather what seems interesting on LENR, and nearly all mainstream coverage... feel free to produce real data and content with that...]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alain Coetmeur</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 11:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2964</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Renton Just copy the text in column of the first page in a translator and you'll see, as i did. Long story short, they say they went in Ferrara the 14th dec 2012 to attend the test session with the 3rd party team, and took the shots. They say the test was scheduled to last 7 days and they specify that the day after, the 15 dec, the test will get the end and that Rossi accepted to let the Profs publish whatever results achieved. If you look at their pics, you'll identify the same HT-cat with the red crack shown in the ArXiv report, at the same temp. reported in the 3rd party report. In a way, at this point, the Swiss Ecat dealer, with this article and photos, makes official those pics as beloging to the december test of the ArXiv report. Hard to deny it... Nobody asked Nevanlninna about it, but at this point is irrelevant, he simply posted something available at the time on the net (and still available, but save a copy :-)]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 10:47:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2962</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Maxwell61 Unfortunately i don't understand german, i'll try to figure out what that report says with google-translat or when i have some free time. But from what i have understood you now believe that the picture that Nevanlinna said was unrelated with the december test is indeed related to it? Did Nevanlinna explain anything?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 10:23:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2960</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Mitch Trachtenberg Ok, let me try to understand your reasons... You do think that LERN is real but since Rossi's claims are so exceptional you also believe that he is a scam that will hurt and discredit the field once it is found out. Is this correct? Beside the exceptional claims of Rossi, do you have any other reason that makes you believe that all this is a scam? If so, how would you explain the results of the third party test, especially considering what Torbjörn Hartman and Hanno Essén said recently excluding any DC input? Do you believe that Focardi, Levi, Essén, etc are scammers too or just, in some way, fooled by Rossi? Also, if Rossi is a scammer, how would you explain that no one of his supposedly buyers came forward saying "Hey! Rossi sold me junk! The E-cat that i got does not work at all!"? And, if Rossi has no buyers at all... then what do you think are his hidden goals?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 10:11:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2958</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Renton & AlanG The primary source of the pic of the with the odd readings of the PCE-830 has been found and look seriously connected with the december tests of the Hot-cat showing the red longitudinal crack tested at about 500 C° , as shwon in the Arxiv report. IIt comes from the Swis E-cat dealer's house organ: See here: http://www.borderlands.de/net_pdf/NET0113S13-15.pdf]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 08:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2955</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Dear Alexander Putney Thankyou very much for your contribution I shall read your paper and mull over the implications. @Clovis We heard the debate and sentiment around our recently published discussion point and the subsequent announcement you refer to. We are of the same opinion as you and that is the direction we are focussed on. For the people, by the people.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Wed, 29 May 2013 05:27:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>clovis says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2954</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi, guys. i'v been a long time fan of Dr. Rossi, it is nice to get your work recognized and evaluated by the scientific world, this is all great, but now rossi does not have anything to do with what happens to his tech, i think, so please continue with your very important work, you maybe our only hope for a working unit that we can build ourselves.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>clovis</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 22:57:22 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Alexander Putney says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2953</link>
			<description><![CDATA[For anyone interested I have published studies concerning phonon resonance transmutation of elements in the many blood varieties, which can be found in my free eBook: http://www.human-resonance.org/qi.html The Rossi setup works just like blood, where nanometals and gases under pressure are trapped together to form new elements. The phonon mathematics of Rossi's experiments are defined, for the first time, on pages 35-36.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alexander Putney</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 21:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Drew says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2952</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Is hugnetview working? I haven't been able to see any data for weeks now :( I use Opera if that makes any difference,]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Drew</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 20:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2950</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Charlie tapp We are preparing a blog on good results in the second run in the Steel and Glass cell (hopefully when the server is running the accumulated data can be uploaded). This is Celani replication - if you have been following the experimental log for that you will have a good idea of what has happened. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?key=0Au5C1oywPfSKdGhxM1F6ZGNwSmxOZUh3bEZyMmRMMHc&output=html Then we have Celani V2.0 experiments on both side of the pond and even maybe a wire packed Concentric Calorimeter (first time more than 2 Celani wires in a reactor, maybe 4.5m!). Just a bit more effort to get the data logging etc. all reliable.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 19:32:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ryan Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2949</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@ Ecco - You are totally right, we would receive a great deal of criticism. The difference is we would be heavily engaged in dialog about the experiment before, during, and after and the world would be invited to look through our experiment log and our raw data. @ Sanjeev - I am happy to see that the DC possibility was tested for.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ryan Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 19:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2948</link>
			<description><![CDATA[It seems that Prof. Essén is now saying they did check for dc. (Sorry the link is getting truncated) mail-archive.com/vortex-l@eskimo.com/msg81540.html After analysing what we checked and measured (which were many > more variables that those from the clamps) we can definitely exclude > dc-current.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 18:35:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Mitch Trachtenberg says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2946</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Giving Rossi the benefit of the doubt has, I believe, seriously hurt the entire field, whatever you want to call it. While it is possible that he has fooled even himself, I have no qualms about saying the reasonable conclusion about the ecat, based on the events so far, is to conclude it is a scam. When it generates measurably more electricity than is fed into it, and when there is an air gap except for the input and output electric lines, I'll be a believer. In the meantime, given that reputable scientists worldwide are accumulating evidence that there is some unexpected nuclear effect connected with some electrochemical operations, I remain very excited at the possible developments in the field. The MFMP folks are doing us all a service, and I'm as grateful to them as I am dubious of Rossi.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mitch Trachtenberg</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 17:22:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2945</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Ecco Absolutely right & wise comment Ecco... I cannot be more happy for the professionality MFMP is showing about it, so i'm sure that would not be the case. But it's always wise to remember it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 17:00:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>charlie tapp says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2944</link>
			<description><![CDATA[lets get off the rossi topic and get back to celani replication been a while since we have seen some action, i can read all the other stuff about rossi on ecat world. please?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>charlie tapp</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 16:25:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ecco says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2943</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@MFMP Maybe offtopic? Just wanted to say that the amount of criticism that can be read all over the Web about the latest paper by Levi et al. should give you an indication of what to expect in case of (apparently?) positive results with non-standard calorimetry and unclear input energy balance with any LENR device replication you might decide to work on.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ecco</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 16:02:49 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>david jones says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2940</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Now to Rossi’s latest experimental validation. The dummy ecat requires 810W of input power to reach a particular temperature. The live ecat starts to modulate this input power downwards as the ecat process starts and adds its own power. At this point the question needs to be asked is this real or is some trickery underfoot? Could a d.c. source (for example) be present? This possibility has to be eliminated; it has to be part of the validation process and the steps taken stated explicitly by the reviewers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>david jones</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 09:30:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>david jones says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2939</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@ Renton et al. I think some explanation of the scientific validation process is in order. I come from an academic position with 50+ peer review papers. Now, I run my own business designing very fast high voltage switches for the laser industry. Recently, I had just finished one particular switch for a big laser company. The person validating my switch took one look at the scope waveform displaying the required pulse waveform and asked “have you integrated the d-dot output signal”. There is only one interpretation; the person was questioning either my competence or my honesty. This is perfectly acceptable, it is expected. After eliminating all other possible outcomes the only doubt left is competence and honesty – and this has to be addressed in all cases. So, when Rossi’s competence or honesty is called into question it is simply part of the process, it is not personal. The present reviewers of Rossi’s ecat have not addressed this explicitly.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>david jones</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 09:16:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2937</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Mitch Trachtenberg Lets have the scientists decide this once they have the chance to test the device and see it working. After all here no one is wasting a dime of their own money besides who decides to test it himself and buy one. So far i didn't see any statement by any scientist who could do their own studies/tests on Rossi's device nor did i see any complaint from any customer that could prove Rossi wrong. Until this happens i will believe in the good faith of Rossi since i have no reason to believe otherwise. I hope you understand that any empty (proof-less) statement that implies that a person is a criminal is, itself, criminal so please think about what you are writing online about a real person with a name and a last-name. Really, the truth will come out one day anyways, no need to insult anyone or suggest that someone is a scammer. I repeat... no one is losing a dime in all this. Lets give Rossi the benefit of the doubt, it won't hurt anyone.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Tue, 28 May 2013 00:00:33 +0000</pubDate>
			<guid>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2937</guid>
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			<title>Ron B says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2935</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Mitch Trachtenberg The current prototype only produces heat not electricity so it would not be able to send any power out. @Renton, I read that story of his troubles with the Italian government. Indeed it does sound like a sad story.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 21:34:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Mitch Trachtenberg says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2934</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Let's try again. An inventor claims to be able to produce 1 MW of energy from substantially less matter than would be involved in known chemical reactions. Yet the device needs to be hooked up to outside power and has secrets. It's been years. If he wanted to prove himself, he would simply (and it is simple, unlike his claimed invention) ensure that the input power comes only via one single metered line owned by an objective third party. He could then convert power to his heart's content, but there'd be an air gap around the device preventing any other supply of power. If he's producing power, he feeds it back to the third party, and gets a net plus in their calculations. When that simple approach is refused over a long period of time, you can only reasonably conclude the guy is a scam artist, apparently as skilled as psychics who accomplish amazing things until conditions are properly controlled, when they mysteriously stop working.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mitch Trachtenberg</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Mon, 27 May 2013 17:44:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2932</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hi Renton, No, i'm not in touch with that person (a male btw) and i don't think he have any relevant direct connection with Rossi' staff. The one that is a personal friend of Dr. Levi is Daniele Passerini of the italian blog 22 passi, which i'm not in touch either. But obviously all the planet identified the problem of the imput power as the relevant one, so Passerini has been already asked by our calorimetry expert, eng. Mario Massa, to forward some question about the input power to Dr. Levi in person, but nothing came back. Nor i'm expecting any reply, sadly. Anyway, in 22 passi blog, someone that can get hold of a PCE-830 is trying to ascertain if any anomaly of some kind due to a DC current could be spotted by the PCE and also some other interesting hypothesis about some possible measurement error due to the limited range of peak current measurable by the PCE., a possible problem for non-linear loads, underestimating it.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 15:43:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2931</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Maxwell61 That's why i am asking it to you which, i guess, know this person. Whoever posted it (Nevanlinna) was there or knows who was there and so can give an informed answer to this question if s/he wants and this does not violate Rossi's IP, no matter if it was connected to the reactor of the third party test or a different one. Does this Nevanlinna know if the RAW data from the PCE-830 of both tests will be available anytime soon? Could you ask it to her? After all it would be just normal for a scientific paper to provide all the data available gathered during the experiment, don't you agree? You see, this about the input power is quite important if they want to prove that the e-cat does work. Publishing online the data read by the PCE-830 would be a move in this direction. I still wonder why such an important thing has not been made public with the report itself.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 14:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2930</link>
			<description><![CDATA[And yes, the person that posted the pic, nick "Nevanlinna" on cobraf.com , is usually a source of very interesting and informed considerations. ....]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 13:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2929</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Renton What is meant is that you cannot speculate about reactive power or phases with odd values if the pic is unrelated to the running conditions of the tests documented in the paper. Those pics have nothing to do with it, nor has been published in the report. So they could relate to any moment of the rigging of an undetermined test or whatever condition, we will never know. No matter what kind of Hot-cat could have been connected in that particular moment, if any. Of course the instrumentation is the one of the 3rd party testers. From a quick search i cannot identify the primary source of the pic, but i'm sure is there somewhere. I'll try to have a look at.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 13:49:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2928</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Maxwell61 That's weird, the clock, the way to hold it... it really looks like the one of the third party report... did they test other e-cats too? Anyways it is still connected to a real e-cat even if a different one. Is there a reason why on one phase you can read just few volts but the same current of the other two? Was it connected after the TRIACs? Does this person have more insights that s/he could share?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 11:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Maxwell61 says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2927</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@AlanG Alan, don't loose your time with that pic, the person that posted just removed it explaning that the pic was unrelated to the 3rd party test:: http://www.cobraf.com/forum/topic.php?reply_id=123505811&topic_id=5747&ps=20&pg=1&sh=0 "@Tutti Ho cancellato la foto di un dettaglio del tester da un mio vecchio post, perché tale Claudio C. Fiorini l'ha proposta imprudentemente su Vortex come relativa al test delle terze parti, mentre non lo è, riguardando una dimostrazione con un diverso modello di hot-Cat [come si constata dalla termografia, che ho mantenuto]." This holds for the discussione now undergoing on the Vortex.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Maxwell61</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 09:03:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2926</link>
			<description><![CDATA[One other possibility for the mystery power display picture is that two voltage probes (1 and 3) are disconnected and floating about 6 volts apart, near ground. That seems more likely than the very strange phase relationship with all three connected.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 01:42:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2925</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Alain What you are saying is certainly true. What i _think_ has happened is that ELFORSK founded this test to see if Rossi's Effect was real in order to decide if it was worth to buy a 1MW unit from Rossi or not. Rossi's main goal probably was to convince them that the e-cat was real, not the general scientific community. In this case the third-party-rep ort was a nice "plus" that could give him more credibility but not his main goal. As i think it is clear by now Rossi does not care about convincing anyone beside his buyers and this is why he doesn't care about a more open and scientific approach in this matter. All this is just a idea of mine, but, knowing Rossi from several years now, this thing seems quite probable. Please also keep in mind how Rossi has been treated in past by the society, this could explain a lot about his current behavior. More info about this here: http://ingandrearossi.net/ it is a very interesting (and disturbing) reading.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sun, 26 May 2013 00:15:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ron B says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2924</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Mitch Trachtenberg I never got the impression that he was short of funds at all. The rumor is that he put his own money into the project and to me that speaks highly of his plans to get a return on his investment.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 19:36:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2923</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Regarding the photos Renton posted, they seem be on an Italian blog site and I haven't been able to trace their origin there. From the bench setup and watch time shown, they're from the December test, when the power meter was attached directly to the cell wires rather than the mains input. They therefore give us a possible clue as to what was being fed to the cells. The data shown suggest an unbalanced wye configuration of three-phase power, with about 179 degrees of offset from 1 to 2 and from 2 to 3, leaving only 2 degrees offset from phase 3 to 1. The important thing is that all three phases are showing nearly the same current so all three are live and presumably have the same voltage from neutral. So this isn't just a two-phase plus neutral floating supply measured as three phase. If it were that (with the neutral not bonded to ground), the third phase current would be the difference of one and two, or close to zero. Very strange!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 18:13:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Mitch Trachtenberg says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2921</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Rossi's spectacle seems like the opposite of your project. How can anyone seriously believe that he has been able to produce energy at below market rates for more than two years, yet has trouble finding funds? Think about it, if you were to report a proper replication, with all the data out there, do you think you'd have trouble raising funds to continue? Sure, you might have trouble if your demands were unreasonable, but do you really think that for two years no single large corporation or electric utility would have offered him huge amounts of money for a small fraction of ownership or even just the right to observe? I hope you keep doing exactly what you are doing. Your results are valuable, no matter how they turn out. And you've championed a new approach to open experimentation that will help others in the future. Rossi does not need or deserve your help.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Mitch Trachtenberg</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 17:22:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>GreenWin says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2920</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Ryan, i do not see anything wrong with Rossi and his team protecting the IP of his catalyst/proces s. And I really don't see any of the dedicated CF researchers hoping for limitless wealth and power. Rather, the authors and other CF researchers have been tenacious and courageous in their pursuit of the P&F Effect, considering the derision from mainstream. Personally I hope Rossi can protect his trade secret long enough to get the recognition and reward his dedication so clearly deserves. Like any momentous breakthrough, LENR will find success in many permutations; some quite likely from quantumheat.org . Please continue your good works, many of us are grateful for your enthusiasm and courage.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>GreenWin</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 16:54:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Alain Coetmeur says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2919</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ My position is that it is possible to fool scientist because they are living in a honest world (science tricks are different from magician... more political). however Rossi could not be sure to fool them about thing out of the boxes... DC current is maybe possible, but extremely dangerous for his corp... Any test done without total control of the protocol cannot be stage magic. SRI, Defkalion and Rossi reactors test are thus, either conspiracy, or genuine with eventually some sincere error. stage magic need control of the stage.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Alain Coetmeur</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 15:12:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2918</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Btw, here http://www.forbes.com/sites/markgibbs/2013/05/24/the-e-cat-testing-team-real-or-ringers/ you can find some more details about each one of the 7 professors and engineers. Yes, i agree that there must be more validation and we do need more answers but it is not reasonable anymore to believe that this is a conscious scam. I do not know if the e-cat does, indeed, exist and work as stated, i am no magician myself, but it is not reasonable anymore to not consider it a possibility. At this point i think we should ask ourselves "is it reasonable to think that Focardi and 7 other professors and engineers have been fooled or bought by Rossi? IMO no, it is not reasonable to believe this. I _do_ hope that the e-cat exists and works, that's clear, everyone should hope it, but while before this report i could think that Focardi might have been fooled, now i am beginning to think that the probabilities that all this is a scam are pretty much non-existant.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:41:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2917</link>
			<description><![CDATA[There is just no proof nor any hint supporting the theory that the 7 professionals are not in good faith and this claim is actually very insulting to them. While this issue certainly requires more validation and there are some dark little spots in the report that should be cleared there is absolutely no reason to believe that this is a huge magic trick to make everyone believe in unicorns. It is absolutely irrational to believe this at this point. And as i said it is very insulting and free (without supporting evidence) to state that the 7 professors were, in some way, in bad faith.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:12:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2916</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@klmdb I don't see how you can say that the report is not "truly independent". All the persons involved in the report are professionals, they come from 3 different universities and from 2 different countries. Their research was founded by third party (not by Rossi), Rossi was not even present in the same room where the tests were made. None of the 7 scientists have any interest into supporting false claims that would certainly destroy them professionally. The only reason why you think it was not "independent" is that Levi (a professor with a known and recognized past in science) knows Rossi and generally supports him... doesn't it seem weak to you? Come on... i have read so many fantastic theories that i am expecting someone will soon come up with the hypothesis that Rossi used "the force" to fool the instruments and the physical evidence. [Continues]]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 13:07:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>klmdb says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2915</link>
			<description><![CDATA[One thing that is being overlooked here: Even if everything contained in the report points to the validity of Rossi's claims, this single report cannot be accepted as proof. The report is not truly independent: some (if not all) of the scientists that signed it off are somehow linked to Rossi. If Rossi is a fraud, it wouldn't be far fetched that one (or more) of these scientists could be responsible for faul play (or even falsifying data). This is, of course, a very ad hominem argument, which I am reluctant to make, but it is still a valid concern. Even more importantly: independant validation should always come from more than a single source, preferably from some reputable instances.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>klmdb</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 11:44:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2914</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Alan G. Unfortunately i do not know a thing about these photos. I just found them here: http://www.e-catworld.com/2013/05/e-cat-test-coverage-roundup/comment-page-1/#comment-141902 I hope the raw data from the PCE-830 will be published soon. I also don't understand why at least one of the 7 scientists does not comment on all the "issues" appeared online, especially this one about the input power. I think it would be important to clear all the dark points not addressed in the report but i still believe that the report is genuine and i find it very hard that Rossi could trick them into a fake report.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 10:17:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Greenyer says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2913</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@All Thanks all for the lively debate. What is happening is Live Peer Review! (Actually all over the internet) Strong statements are eliciting good arguments and we are all benefitting from getting closer to a correct understanding of the published document. Keep it up!]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Greenyer</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 08:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Paul Hunt says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2912</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I'm curious why the photo of the meter screen shows 6.3 volts from phase 3 to 1.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Paul Hunt</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 04:54:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2911</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Renton Those are interesting pictures, not included in the report. Do you know when in the testing they were taken? The watch might be showing 14 Dec 17:45. The dates of the December test are not given in the report. One other curious thing in your picture of the meter: the phase 3-1 voltage is 6.3 volts, while the phase 1-2 and 2-3 measurements show 237-238 volts. This suggests unusual phase angles. All three phases show just over 6 amps. The only useful image of the power display in the report itself is on pg.19, showing the dummy run. The data isn't readable unfortunately, but he display format then was quite different from what's shown in your picture. I'm just trying to make sense of all these clues.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 04:45:58 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2910</link>
			<description><![CDATA[What i want to point out in the previous post is that: 1) it was an AC waveform 2) the PCE-830 has a 1% error if the power factor is between 0.5 and 1 (and this is the case) Also, the report clearly states that the PCE-830 was connected upstream from the control box (page 16) so BEFORE the TRIACs. Another important point, IMO, is that the e-cat, from what i can tell, used the same power plugs used by the computer and instruments... this means that it was a regular 50Hz/60Hz sine wave or the instruments and computer would have been destroyed or damaged.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Renton says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2909</link>
			<description><![CDATA[I think these pics are relevant to this thread. http://cobraf.com/showimage.php?image=/forum/immagini/R_123517565_2.jpg http://cobraf.com/showimage.php?image=/forum/immagini/R_123517565_3.jpg From what i can see here the PCE-830 can measure the power factor, which is 0.5 (this also means that the current waveform is displaced in regards of the voltage waveform... this does not happen in DC, only in AC with non-resistive loads). [Continues]]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Renton</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Sat, 25 May 2013 00:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>AlanG says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2908</link>
			<description><![CDATA[@Robert Ellefson #8 Yes, I'm aware that it would be difficult to fool the power monitor instrument with a high-frequency waveform imposed on the long wires to the cell. I merely wanted to point out that the power measurement was glossed over and poorly documented in the report, as many others also noted. It would have been trivial to avoid such questions with one sentence such as "thd+n of the 50 hz input power was seen to be less than xx% at all times".]]></description>
			<dc:creator>AlanG</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 23:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2907</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Not intentional. Anyway I edited that to include the robot part. So actually you are saying that the meter cannot be fooled by DC.May be someone who has this particular meter can verify this.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 23:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Ron B says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2906</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Did you hear the latest? That the total watts consumed was measured between the mains and the control box, thereby encompassing all used power, at any frequency ; )]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Ron B</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 23:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Ellefson says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2905</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ That seems to be the only hole in an otherwise thorough test. You have quoted this excerpt out of context, in such a way as to negate the meaning of the point it was used to make. That is not cool. Unless you are in fact a robot, I consider the potential for this meter to be fooled by a DC bias to be effectively zero. If you really wish to cling to that vanishingly-sma ll probability tail, well, then I hope you get to meet Watson some day. That guy kills me.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Ellefson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:58:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Sanjeev says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2904</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ That seems to be the only hole in an otherwise thorough test.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Sanjeev</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:44:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Timar says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2903</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ Antenna inside a faraday cage?]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Timar</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:28:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Robert Ellefson says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2902</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ I only know this meter through reading the manufacturer's specification sheet, which is reasonably detailed. There are large number of analytic functions performed by this "power analyzer" instrument. Although I can't state with absolute certainty that it would detect a significant DC offset, I can say it with about as much certainty as I have in the proposition that I'm not currently conversing with a robot.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Robert Ellefson</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:24:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Hank Mills says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2901</link>
			<description><![CDATA[Hello, I just want to say that according to my understanding, making the system self sustain is fairly easy; continue applying radio frequencies while not providing significant power to the resistances. Basically, in this test, I think the resistors served both as a heat source and a helical antenna. BTW, Rossi told me that the entire one megawatt plant only needs less than one hundred watts of rfg stimulation in self sustain mode.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Hank Mills</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:20:32 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title>Timar says:</title>
			<link>http://www.quantumheat.org#comment-2899</link>
			<description><![CDATA[ This is a crucial point! There is no way to put one kilowatt at such a high frequency through an ordinary cable. You would definitely need a shielded cable for that. I don't think that such a cable would have gone unnoticed by the testers.]]></description>
			<dc:creator>Timar</dc:creator>
			<pubDate>Fri, 24 May 2013 22:05:25 +0000</pubDate>
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